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. >> trillion dollar deficits. that debt is owned by somebody. someone holds that. that puts america in a position of economic risk. >> reporter: but even supporters are split on how romney can win this race. >> there is more fire in the belly. >> he needs to stick with the facts. it's all about the economy. >> reporter: more than half the country already started voting days before the first presidential debate. more numbers now. gallup is reporting the president's approval rating is sticking at 50%. and this could turn out to be his best month in a year. >> tracie potts for us in washington. thank you. >>> last night on the rachel madow show bill burton talked to racel about the impact or lack thereof super packs are having on the romney campaign. >> on the republican side, the story they tell about mitt romney is there is no story about mitt romney. the story they tell about barack obama is well he's always bad things. if you're trying to figure out well what is it that -- what's the strategy here? how are we trying to win this race? it's more difficult on their s
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place that's going to be good for the country, that's a long-term deal so we're not revisiting the deficit and debts every year. that's what we need to be debating. we need to look at what we can do as i said that's comprehensive, that looks at all aspects of the budget, that minimizes the negative impact on both the defense and the domestic side. and we should be working together to do that. >> josh tyrangiel has a question for you, senator. >> senator, how would you characterize the conversations? i'm interested in the mechanic of how these things move forward. are you guys meeting in somebody's office, are you cordial, are things all on the table? are there certain things everybody's announced as let's not touch this? can you talk about how it works? >> well, as i said, this was a group of six of us who met, five of us met fairly regularly for a couple of weeks. it reflects, i think, a number of groups that have been meeting within the senate, trying to see where there are areas of agreement, looking at what we need to do to be as comprehensive as possible to reduce, as many of the pote
place that's going to be good for the country, that's a long-term deal so we're not revisiting the deficit and debts every year. that's what we need to be debating. we need to look at what we can do as i said that's comprehensive, that looks at all aspects of the budget, that minimizes the negative impact on both the defense and the domestic side. and we should be working together to do that. >> josh tyrangiel has a question for you, senator. >> senator, how would you characterize...
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numbers guy, a budget guy, he's showing voters who come to these rallies exactly, and in raw numbers, the deficit problem the country has and he said that mitt romney is the better candidate to try to reverse the trend that the united nations government has been on in the past four years. so we'll have to see if he sharpens that attack even more today. but clearly they know they've got some challenges ahead, in new hampshire, of course the battleground state just four electoral votes there. in this tight race four votes could mean the difference between who is president and who is not. they want to fight hard. mitt romney's adopted home state there, if you will. >> right, so he'll be doing that for sure in new hampshire and then in ohio today. okay, thank you very much, ron mott appreciate that. >>> let's get more on the president's surge in the polls. he is increasing his lead in a number of key swing states. he's leading in all nine nbc/"wall street journal"/marist polls taken over the last three weeks. let's talk about what's happening from the gop perspective. because some there are complaini
numbers guy, a budget guy, he's showing voters who come to these rallies exactly, and in raw numbers, the deficit problem the country has and he said that mitt romney is the better candidate to try to reverse the trend that the united nations government has been on in the past four years. so we'll have to see if he sharpens that attack even more today. but clearly they know they've got some challenges ahead, in new hampshire, of course the battleground state just four electoral votes there. in...
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focusing on energy, independent skills that will allow people to succeed, a trade that works for america, deficit reducti reduction, and being a champion for small business, which is not what the president has done. and as we get in the debates it will be critical to show the contrast between governor romney and the president. the good thing is wasserman schultz down played the president's expectations as expected by the democrats, but he is the gifted speaker. the problem is, he does not have the gift of a positive record to run on. the economy is in the toilet and t current news we have on informed policy is troubling. the administration knew this was a terrorist attack within the first 24 hours yet they continue to say this is the result of a video in a movie trailer, put ambassador rice out there being extremely dishonest with the american people. that's troubling. and those troops will come out in the debates. >> alice, we've gone to war with countries saying they were responsible for nerch when they really weren't. i'm talking about iraq. give the white house a little leeway here on figurin
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the deficit number? >> probably the deficit. i think if you are the president's campaign you're less worried about romney's numbers right now. on the one hand the 40% right direction is the highest it has been in 3 1/2 years and any incumbent heading in that is momentum. 53% say the country is headed in the wrong track. i think this for the president is not about mitt romney. those advantages, chuck, on china, foreign policy and the deficit aren't as strong as for usual republicans. and the final point i would make is i think the important thing for this election is that braump has a 52 positive, 42 negative image. mitt romney has a negative image. only two have had a net negative image at this point and one of them loss, george h.w. bush and romney needs to improve that dynamic. >> democratic pollster. thank you very much to both of you. we have to get back in the field. let's keep poling. just two days away from friday's jobs report. we will get a quick preview on wall street on the market run down. and then we are taking a tr
the deficit number? >> probably the deficit. i think if you are the president's campaign you're less worried about romney's numbers right now. on the one hand the 40% right direction is the highest it has been in 3 1/2 years and any incumbent heading in that is momentum. 53% say the country is headed in the wrong track. i think this for the president is not about mitt romney. those advantages, chuck, on china, foreign policy and the deficit aren't as strong as for usual republicans. and...
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no taxes to deal with the deficit. is that the right thing? >> keep in mind, he made it very clear that unlike this president, who i have to like as a person. i know him well. unlike president obama, he wants to work with congress. he knows he's not going to get anything done if he doesn't work with congress. >> but he drew a line there. is that a fuzzy line? >> i'm with it on the line. one thing that has to be made very clear is the wealthy will be paying just as much as they're paying now. >> but they shouldn't pay more. >> i thought one of the best lines is that basically we're tired of trickle down government. and he turned the tables on the president. we have the president who believes it will government is the last answer to everything. do you think that is going to be a political liability in the state of florida? >> well, keep in mind, he brought up pretty forcefully that the president cut medicare. he also said that look, we are going to keep medicare exactly as it is for those 55 years or older. but we have to do something to help th
no taxes to deal with the deficit. is that the right thing? >> keep in mind, he made it very clear that unlike this president, who i have to like as a person. i know him well. unlike president obama, he wants to work with congress. he knows he's not going to get anything done if he doesn't work with congress. >> but he drew a line there. is that a fuzzy line? >> i'm with it on the line. one thing that has to be made very clear is the wealthy will be paying just as much as...
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we have increased deficits. we have had unemployment over 8%. the middle class is hurting. and i think he did, thomas, give specifics. he gave his five-point plan how he is going to create jobs in this country. >> but senator, you don't think that we are better off than four years ago when it comes to 43 straight months of job growth, the fact that the auto bailout worked? the fact we have drawn out of the war in iraq and we are now slowly trying to map out the course to leave afghanistan? you don't think that the country is better off than we were four years ago as a whole, collectively? >> since you brought up the foreign situation, i think we are in a much worse position because the president withdrew from iraq and afghanistan without benchmarks that would be required to keep those countries stable when we leave. that's why we are seeing our people being shot by insiders in afghanistan. why things are breaking up in iraq. i don't think the world is safer because of what president obama has done. i think his foreign policy is very -- >> do you think we need to pull out of
we have increased deficits. we have had unemployment over 8%. the middle class is hurting. and i think he did, thomas, give specifics. he gave his five-point plan how he is going to create jobs in this country. >> but senator, you don't think that we are better off than four years ago when it comes to 43 straight months of job growth, the fact that the auto bailout worked? the fact we have drawn out of the war in iraq and we are now slowly trying to map out the course to leave...
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five was the budget deficit. so no one's minimizing the importance of the deficit but there really is not a program that deals with the other four and they are using extreme measures and cutting up various entitlements and americans that want to deal with the deficit. >> i think what happened in 2010 and democrats in a way allowed this to happen is that the republicans succeeded in making the deficit a central issue and a stand in for people's economic worries across the board. >> right. >> i think now it's much clearer to people that these two things are related but they are quite separate and there are moments when balancing the budget or cutting spending on things like schools and public safety can actually make unemployment worse. i think something else important has happened, which is the health care law was very unpopular on election day back then. the health care law is gaining ground. and they were demobilized, the democrats last time. they are not demobilized this time. >> they were strutting around, the
five was the budget deficit. so no one's minimizing the importance of the deficit but there really is not a program that deals with the other four and they are using extreme measures and cutting up various entitlements and americans that want to deal with the deficit. >> i think what happened in 2010 and democrats in a way allowed this to happen is that the republicans succeeded in making the deficit a central issue and a stand in for people's economic worries across the board. >>...
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mitt romney, doesn't have a deficit reduction plan. he wants to spend $2 trillion more in defense, $5 trillion more in a tax cut won't tell us how you pay for, before you even start talking about deficit reduction. it's a joke to think mitt romney will actually take action to redaus the deficit. >> taxes, this week he did come out with this proposal of eliminating $17,000 in deductions. >> right. >> your response to that? >> well, you know, he left out a number of different details of that proposal but i would also say that limiting deductions to $17,000 for middle-class families still results in a tax increase. even in just the health premium deduction, for families last year, were about $15,000. there you go. what happens to the mortgage deduction, charitable deduction, child deduction. he's raising taxes on middle class families. >> if this comes up and mitt romney starts to do that math that paul ryan wouldn't do, i'm sure this will be a topic of discussion. >> how worried are you about the jobs report on friday? >> we face this ev
mitt romney, doesn't have a deficit reduction plan. he wants to spend $2 trillion more in defense, $5 trillion more in a tax cut won't tell us how you pay for, before you even start talking about deficit reduction. it's a joke to think mitt romney will actually take action to redaus the deficit. >> taxes, this week he did come out with this proposal of eliminating $17,000 in deductions. >> right. >> your response to that? >> well, you know, he left out a number of...
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the federal subsidy for pbs in 2012 doesn't make up a huge part of this deficit. for example, 2012, the federal subsidy for pbs was $444 million. if you compare that to romney's plan for the federal budget, you'll see how miniscule it is. pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2 trillion over the next ten years. so, i mean, big bird is a big diversion to what he's really talking about in terms of the deficit. >> well, i think those of us out here crave specifics from governor romney. and when he's talked about this in the past, he's often thrown big bird under the bus. i don't know what would happen if he threw big bird under the bass. maybe the bus would go off the road. but never the let's, he has this little set piece he does. do you want to know what i'll cut? i'll cut pbs and big bird, the national endowment of humanities and the amtrak subsid
the federal subsidy for pbs in 2012 doesn't make up a huge part of this deficit. for example, 2012, the federal subsidy for pbs was $444 million. if you compare that to romney's plan for the federal budget, you'll see how miniscule it is. pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2...
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mitt romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he has a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. one thing that will be interesting wednesday if he'll finally explain how his math adds up. he has a $5 trillion tax cut, on top of a $5 trillion to extend the bush cuts, and another $2 trillion in defense spending that our leaders say they don't need. $8 trillion. he says he's not going to add to the deficit. if he's not going to add to the deficit, the middle class better watch out because they'll pay the burden if he is elected because the hole is just too big. and it will be interesting on wednesday. if he says he's not going to burden the middle class, then he's going to blow a hole in the deficit. >> will we see president obama here on "meet the press" before election day? >> well, there's 37 days left, so we'll stay in contact about it. >> all right. we hope to see him here. mr. plouffe, thank you. >> thank you, david. >>> coming up, what are the stakes for both campaigns? the roundtable will get into it. founder of
mitt romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he has a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. one thing that will be interesting wednesday if he'll finally explain how his math adds up. he has a $5 trillion tax cut, on top of a $5 trillion to extend the bush cuts, and another $2 trillion in defense spending that our leaders say they don't need. $8 trillion. he says he's not going to add to the deficit. if he's not going to add to the deficit, the middle class better watch out because...
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is still part of cope with its own deficit struggling to reduce that deficit in catalonia about forty billion euros but here they say they've made deeper and tougher cuts than anywhere else in spain this issue actually earlier this month or so about a million people onto the streets in barcelona is a call for independence away from madrid because a very tough time for spain as a whole particularly for the government of prime minister rudd hordes as one m.p.'s dubbed it is a crisis on top of a crisis as they're facing their own problems of deficit reduction and people coming out to the streets in their tens of thousands to protest against how the government is handling austerity measures. we've just seen this week protests turned violent the occupy congress movement which started peacefully aim to get a message of and just terribly through choice piece and ended in violence of police pushing back the protesters with a big hit by battens having robots their direction and it's also about sixty people were injured in proceedings about thirty people being detained as a worrying sign for so
is still part of cope with its own deficit struggling to reduce that deficit in catalonia about forty billion euros but here they say they've made deeper and tougher cuts than anywhere else in spain this issue actually earlier this month or so about a million people onto the streets in barcelona is a call for independence away from madrid because a very tough time for spain as a whole particularly for the government of prime minister rudd hordes as one m.p.'s dubbed it is a crisis on top of a...
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mitt romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he's got a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. one of the things that will be interesting wednesday, if he'll finally explain hows had math adds up. he's got a $5 trillion tax cut and nour $2 trillion in defense spending that our defense leaders say they don't need if he's not going to add to the deficit, the middle class better watch out because they're going to pay the burden if he's elected president, because the whole is just too big. so if he says he's not going to burden the middle class, then he's going to blow a hole in the deficit. >> will we see president obama on "meet the press" before election day? >> there's 37 days left. so we'll stay in contact about it. >>> coming up, we talk more about the first debate. what are the stakes for both campaigns. the round table will get into it founder of the faith and freedom coalition, ralph reed, former democratic pennsylvania governor, ed rendell. the bbc's catty kay and nbc's chuck todd. here's what happened... i w
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we have seen a trade deficit explode. take auto parts. ten years ago, the trade deficit was $1 billion with choina on auto parts. today it's $10 billion. that's why the president at the ur urging of a number of us, they have taken china to the world trade organization to show china is cheating and to ask for tariffs to protect american companies and to protect american workers. and we're seeing a pattern of the government finally on the side of workers, finally on the side of american manufacturing, standing up for american workers against china. we have a new steel mill. we're seeing jobs actually come to this country or stay in this country because we're standing up and enforcing trade rules. >> romney and the republicans keep talking about another tax cut for the job creators. don't we just see them increasing their profits by outsourcing this way? i mean, the model that romney wants to lay on the country, how could it be good for workers in ohio? >> well, it's not. we tried these tax cuts for the rich. hoping it trickles down to the m
we have seen a trade deficit explode. take auto parts. ten years ago, the trade deficit was $1 billion with choina on auto parts. today it's $10 billion. that's why the president at the ur urging of a number of us, they have taken china to the world trade organization to show china is cheating and to ask for tariffs to protect american companies and to protect american workers. and we're seeing a pattern of the government finally on the side of workers, finally on the side of american...
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s dubbed it is a crisis on top of a crisis as they're facing their own problems of deficit reduction and people coming out to the streets in their tens of thousands to protest against how the government is handling austerity measures we've just seen this week protests turned violent the occupy congress movement which started peacefully aim to get a message of and just stared through to him peace and ended in violence of police pushing back the protesters were being hit by battens having bullets fired in their direction and it's also about sixty people were injured in proceedings about thirty people being detained as a worrying sign for some of these demonstrations turned more violent as the as a continued. and those inspiring the crowds in spain dubbed the indignados or the fifteenth of may movements named after the day when this series of mass demonstrations in the country started last year and some petro from there were a show on college university who also took part in this week's protests explains how popular the movement actually is among the people you are talking about this sp
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. >> there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i'll underline that, no tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> really? okay. what kind of mileage does it get? >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> huh? okay. do the brakes work? >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. >> let's not. let's let him respond. >> i get the last word. let me make this comment. >> nope. come on, mr. president, give us a peek under the hood. >> five week before the election he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good? is it because that somehow middle class a families are going to benefit too much? ♪ i guess you're just what i needed ♪ >>> we begin with the president criticized as being less than effective last night by hyperventilating pundits across the board, but now getting his own chance to put a spin on the first presidential debate
. >> there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i'll underline that, no tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> really? okay. what kind of mileage does it get? >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> huh? okay. do the brakes work? >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. >> let's not. let's let him respond. >> i get the last word. let me make...
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who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not be enough time to do enough shots with enough intoxicated fans before voting starts in ohio tomorrow. so if his running mate is no use, how about a boost from the other person mitt's proposed to, his wife, ann. surely she can provide the comfort and confidence that mr. romney needs to fire up his bid for the presidency. >> my biggest concern obviously would just be for the -- his mental well-being. >> wait? what? mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. wit
who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not be enough time to do enough shots with enough intoxicated fans before voting starts in ohio tomorrow. so if his running mate is no use, how about a boost from the other person mitt's proposed to, his wife, ann. surely she can provide the comfort and confidence that mr. romney needs to fire up his bid for the presidency. >> my biggest concern...
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. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when he put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like to hear intellectual debates about policy said, great, bring it on, let's have a big debate about the philosophy of government. down in florida they don't care about the philosophy. >> all politics is local. >> they want the program, they like the program, don't mess with the program. >> thank you, howard. thank you very much for joining us. coming up, claire mccaskill versus todd aiken. it became a good bet for democrats. let's see how it is looking now. claire mccaskill, herself, joins us next. >>> with four judges in the supreme court in their 70s, the next president could d
. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when he put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like...
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said you'd cut the deficit in half, it's now four years later, we have $1 trillion deficits, the cbo says we'll have a $1 trillion deficit each of the next four years. if you're re-elected, we'll get to a $1 trillion debt. and i love this idea of $4 trillion in cuts. you found $4 trillion of ways to get closer to a balanced budget, yet we still show $1 trillion deficits every year. that doesn't get the job done. let me come back and say, why is it that i don't want to raise taxes. well, i don't want to raise taxes on people. and you said it back in 2010. you said, i'm going to extend the tax policies that we have. i'm not going to raise taxes on anyone, because when the economy is growing slow like this, when we're in recession, you shouldn't raise taxes on anyone. well, the economy is still growing slow. as a matter of fact, it's growing much more slowly now than when you made that statement. so if you believe the same thing, you just don't want to raise taxes on people, and the reality is, it's not just wealthy people. you mentioned donald trump. it's not just donald trump you're t
said you'd cut the deficit in half, it's now four years later, we have $1 trillion deficits, the cbo says we'll have a $1 trillion deficit each of the next four years. if you're re-elected, we'll get to a $1 trillion debt. and i love this idea of $4 trillion in cuts. you found $4 trillion of ways to get closer to a balanced budget, yet we still show $1 trillion deficits every year. that doesn't get the job done. let me come back and say, why is it that i don't want to raise taxes. well, i don't...
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of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little doodads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut, but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the -- >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to say, look, i'm happy to see -- your running mate said he didn't have enough time on sunday. that's too bad. that's terrible, in fact. i'm willing to cede, governor romney -- >> could jim lehrer get away with simply saying, i have a little liberty here, a little leeway, i will give you all the time it takes. tell us now
of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little doodads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised...
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it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you? >> that's the problem. if he starts getting specific like that, what the right wants to hear is not what 80% of the country wants to hear. that's the fundamental problem he has. >> the bar is pretty low for mr. romney. how does he get through the 90 minutes without any further problems? very quickly. >> i've been a big fan of the fact that mitt romney is the gift that keeps on giving. listen, if mitt romney doesn't produce a verbal or a physical gaffe tonight, then by and large, i think the republicans will probably say that he won. but, i think that
it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you?...
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they were deficit financed in the first place. the president is counting on savings from last year when the white house and congress raised the debt ceiling. >> andrea mitchell reporting. lawrence o'donnell asked martin o'malley what president obama should do next time he faces mitt romney in a debate? >> i think the president has to keep doing what he's doing. be truthful about why he made the choices he made. keep talking about the fact we are moving forward, not back with positive job growth. he has to continue to press governor romney that he's not putting forth the specifics of how he would do the various things he promised. it is a choice right now between two alternatives. i think problem's is based on the reality of the decisions we must make together as a people if we want a better and stronger economy. don't miss lawrence o'donnell on msnbc, the place for politics. here is a look at other news. in south carolina, a viole attack caught on camera. a convicted robbery defendant surprised his public defender with a roundhous
they were deficit financed in the first place. the president is counting on savings from last year when the white house and congress raised the debt ceiling. >> andrea mitchell reporting. lawrence o'donnell asked martin o'malley what president obama should do next time he faces mitt romney in a debate? >> i think the president has to keep doing what he's doing. be truthful about why he made the choices he made. keep talking about the fact we are moving forward, not back with...
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he's not going to have to overcome 8, 9 point deficits to try to get into it. he needs to go out there and communicate in a clear way where he wants to lead the country. what is the alternative vision that he has vis-a-vis the president and he's been unable to communicate that over the entirety of the election. tonight is one of his last chances to start doing it. >> let me give you another scenario and that is that the president has a good night tonight. he gets it up to 51, as you say, and the other guy is going down and very few opportunities left. that would be a bad night for mr. romney. thank you, howard fineman, and steve schmidt. >>> coming up, how will we know who wins tonight's debate? it's not like there is an official scorecard but experts will look at everything. we'll give you an idea of how to look at this thing realtime. >>> and also caught on tape, yesterday "the huffington post" reported paul ryan saying 30% of americans wanted a welfare state and jumped on joe biden as well saying that the middle class has been buried. the running mates are c
he's not going to have to overcome 8, 9 point deficits to try to get into it. he needs to go out there and communicate in a clear way where he wants to lead the country. what is the alternative vision that he has vis-a-vis the president and he's been unable to communicate that over the entirety of the election. tonight is one of his last chances to start doing it. >> let me give you another scenario and that is that the president has a good night tonight. he gets it up to 51, as you say,...
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about i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> romney never actually said there would be a 20% tax cut? >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans by 20%. i want a 20% across the board reduction in taxes. the individual marginal tax rate 20% across the board. the top rate, for instance, would go from 35 to 28, middle rates would come down by 20% as well, all rates come down. >> president obama was just as surprised. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. >> but the etch a sketching did not stop there. governor romney who once believed financial regulation was hurting the economy -- >> dodd frank it's called, has not helped enterprise get going, it's slowed it down. >> now seems to be a supporter of wall street regulation. >> want to repeal dodd/frank? >> and replace it. we're not going to get rid of regulation. some parts of dodd/frank that make all of the sense in the world. >> and back in june, romney mocked the president's crazy ideas a
about i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> romney never actually said there would be a 20% tax cut? >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans by 20%. i want a 20% across the board reduction in taxes. the individual marginal tax rate 20% across the board. the top rate, for instance, would go from 35 to 28, middle rates would come down by 20% as well, all rates come down. >> president obama was just as surprised. >> well, for 18...
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you want to do this with the deficit. i want to do that. it's like the reason i want to do this is because i have a different set of values than republicans. >> what are those values? spell them out. >> using government as a communal progressive force to protect the safety net and to come together and invest in innovation, education, infrastructure. we're in it together. versus the ryan budget, which used as a stand-in first republican nominee, which says we're on it alone, get rid of government and give you a voucher, find medicare on your own. here comes romney and he sort of fits the mold. he's a 1 percenter. he shows no empathy, even before the 47%. >> a pure market guy. >> they use bain, from the beginning, as cynthia noted, as a value. he's out there making money. i'm thinking of wider ames and goals. >> a new bloomberg goal that has president obama leading mitt romney by six points nationally. for one big reason, half of the polls say they have an unfavorable view of mitt romney. bloomberg reports, this is a september high for a pres
you want to do this with the deficit. i want to do that. it's like the reason i want to do this is because i have a different set of values than republicans. >> what are those values? spell them out. >> using government as a communal progressive force to protect the safety net and to come together and invest in innovation, education, infrastructure. we're in it together. versus the ryan budget, which used as a stand-in first republican nominee, which says we're on it alone, get rid...
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if it's deficit, the president the in a weaker position, because people just associate him with the deficits, with spending. that's been a very effective line for mitt romney. and it's actually going to be interesting to see whether jim lehrer subscribes to a beltway connection with deficits, and we see from those numbers, the president is doing poorly on deficits and he's winning the race right now. >> people vote more on jobs than they vote on deficits, despite the amount the beltway obsesses on it. ed, last word? >> the other thing about the deficit, this could rope the president into a very vulnerable position and get him into a conversation about what hays going to do if he's re-elected when it comes to the big three, medicare, medicaid, and social security. i mean, is he really going to go big? >> that's a big question. >> you bet it is. and if romney can get him into a position, saying he is going to go after those big three, i guarantee you -- the president already got a letter last week, tell us what you're going to do with these earned entitlement programs, whatever you want to cal
if it's deficit, the president the in a weaker position, because people just associate him with the deficits, with spending. that's been a very effective line for mitt romney. and it's actually going to be interesting to see whether jim lehrer subscribes to a beltway connection with deficits, and we see from those numbers, the president is doing poorly on deficits and he's winning the race right now. >> people vote more on jobs than they vote on deficits, despite the amount the beltway...
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no tax cut that adds to the deficit. but i do want to increase the dividend being paid to middle income americans, so i cannot reduce the burden paid by high-income americans. so any language to the contrary is simply not accurate. >> mr. president? >> well, i think, let's talk about taxes, because i think it's instructive. now, four years ago when i stood on this stage, i said that i would cut taxes for middle class families. and that's exactly what i did. we cut taxes for middle class families by about $3,600. and the reason is, because i believe that we do best when the middle class is doing well. and by giving them those tax cuts, they have a little more money in their pocket. so maybe they can buy a new car. they are certainly in a better position to weather the extraordinary recession that we've went through. they can buy a computer for their kid, who's going off to college. which means they're spending more money, businesses have more customers, businesses make more profits, and then hire more workers. now, govern
no tax cut that adds to the deficit. but i do want to increase the dividend being paid to middle income americans, so i cannot reduce the burden paid by high-income americans. so any language to the contrary is simply not accurate. >> mr. president? >> well, i think, let's talk about taxes, because i think it's instructive. now, four years ago when i stood on this stage, i said that i would cut taxes for middle class families. and that's exactly what i did. we cut taxes for middle...
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including paul ryan tight-lipped on the specifics of the romney plan to cut taxes but not blow up the deficit. >>> and no animals were harmed in the making of this video. skater dude meet deer. that clip later in the show. first to the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers are split on how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of the attack and why it took so long to acknowledge it was an act of terrorism. some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the attack on the consulate was pa
including paul ryan tight-lipped on the specifics of the romney plan to cut taxes but not blow up the deficit. >>> and no animals were harmed in the making of this video. skater dude meet deer. that clip later in the show. first to the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers...
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all those same polls that show president obama leading and claims to correct the bias, turning romney deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind it is simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say this time, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look a lot like 2008 and this they say is wrong. notice i said this time. back in 2004, democrats complained that the polls which showed george w. bush leading were overestimating the number of republicans who would vote. they were wrong. the polls were right. now, in 2000 al gore said don't believe the polls. polls showed him losing narrowly. polls were right. in fact, it's hard to find an example of the polls on average getting it wrong unless you go back to 1948, when they predicted thomas dewey defeated president harry truman. cnn political contributor ari fleischer joins us. he's an occasional unpaid com
all those same polls that show president obama leading and claims to correct the bias, turning romney deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind it is simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say this time, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look...
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there will still be a substantial deficit but it will be much smaller. president obama's main contribution to this $16 billion debt which is -- a $1 trillion debt which is a ten-year figure, projecting out ten years, was the stimulus bill which was $800 billion, which i believe was a good thing to do. i think that that might even be even bigger without it, because it kept people working and paying taxes and off the government payrolls and because it created new jobs and infrastructure in energy. if you look at his annual spending budgets, they are about 2% increases. that's less than the rate of inflation. so i think that the reason that i believe he will win re-election is that we're beginning to recover. we've had a higher rate of job creation since the recession bottomed out, the collapse bottomed out in the middle of 2009, than in the previous eight years, and we are moving in the right direction, and the policies he has advocated are more likely to present a good economic result. that's why if people thought this was just like another recession, he
there will still be a substantial deficit but it will be much smaller. president obama's main contribution to this $16 billion debt which is -- a $1 trillion debt which is a ten-year figure, projecting out ten years, was the stimulus bill which was $800 billion, which i believe was a good thing to do. i think that that might even be even bigger without it, because it kept people working and paying taxes and off the government payrolls and because it created new jobs and infrastructure in...
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s dubbed this is a crisis on top of a crisis as they're facing their own problems of deficit reduction and people coming out to the streets in their tens of thousands to protest against how the government is handling austerity measures we've just seen this week protests turned violent the occupy congress movement which started peacefully aim to get a message of and just stared through to him peace and ended in violence of police pushing back the protesters with being hit by batters having from a bullet fired in their direction and it's also about sixty people were injured in proceedings about thirty people being detained as a worrying sign for some of these demonstrations turned more violent after as a continued. this is coming up later in the program so we think us in the u.k. for the finals of the police officers to take to the streets in protest at a bit of a scare and now the north forces are threatening to shrink the government into a train journey it's always more. persons evening standard newspaper with the salt for punching the rival. the sun rises over what seems like analyst
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reduction, he claimed $4 trillion deficit reduction. he's double counting, there's a gym nick there, according to the nonpartisan committee for responsible federal budget because he talks about the savings of $1 trillion from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan, which were deficit financed to begin with. both sides were fudging, and both sides are guilty of fuzzy math. but in terms of sheer performance, the president seemed to have left it in the locker room, did he not prepare well enough? >> well, listen, i don't think we viewed this as a steel cage match. our goal with last night for the president to lay out his plans to restore economic security for the middle class and there's a choice in the election between building the economy for the middle class out, making investments in education, reducing the deficit, and mitt romney's plan, the same policies that led to the economic crisis in the first place. mitt romney had a different strategy. he engaged in an act of performance art last night, something that james lipton woul
reduction, he claimed $4 trillion deficit reduction. he's double counting, there's a gym nick there, according to the nonpartisan committee for responsible federal budget because he talks about the savings of $1 trillion from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan, which were deficit financed to begin with. both sides were fudging, and both sides are guilty of fuzzy math. but in terms of sheer performance, the president seemed to have left it in the locker room, did he not prepare well...
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not just from a foreign policy standpoint, one of the reasons that we have huge deficits is that we have these unpaid wars. the voters also view these foreign issues through a prism of the economy. >> david plouffe, thank you very much. >>> we'll be right back with our powerhouse roundtable in just 60 seconds. it's something you're born with. and inspires the things you choose to do. you do what you do... because it matters. at hp we don't just believe in the power of technology. we believe in the power of people when technology works for you. to dream. to create. to work. if you're going to do something. make it matter. >>> quick change there. george will is off today. but we're joined by donna brazile on the roundtable. matthew dowd. maggie haberman of politico. two former party chairman. former vermont governor, howard dean for the democrats. and former governor haley barbour for the republicans. matthew dowd, let me begin with you, and setting the stage where the race is right now, we see president obama ahead by about five points nationally, right now, ahead in all of the battlegrou
not just from a foreign policy standpoint, one of the reasons that we have huge deficits is that we have these unpaid wars. the voters also view these foreign issues through a prism of the economy. >> david plouffe, thank you very much. >>> we'll be right back with our powerhouse roundtable in just 60 seconds. it's something you're born with. and inspires the things you choose to do. you do what you do... because it matters. at hp we don't just believe in the power of technology....
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what about the deficit? >> this is what the president said his plan would cut, the deficit, it would cut it by $4 trillion. take a listen. >> i put forward a specific $4 trillion deficit reduction plan. it's on a website. you can look at all the numbers. what cuts we make and what revenue we raise. >> well, chris, the president is counting money saved by letting the bush tax cuts expire for people making more than $250,000 a year. but he's also counting $1 trillion in savings by drawing down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. nonpartisan budget experts call that a gimmick because the wars were deficit-financed in the first place. >> back to our panel. brad, your thoughts on the deficit? >> well, look, first of all, you won't be surprised that i disagree with that analysis. you know the president, the savings from the wars is actually true and important. i mean, mitt romney, chris, wants to spend $2 trillion on the defense department the pentagon asked for and he wants to go back to war in iraq. those should b
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right now in trying to get reelected, he faces a deficit among women voters of about 12 points. interestingly though, the most politically damaging thing about that awkward introduction to the national political universe might not have been what mr. brown said about his daughters while they tried to make him stop, but what happened right before that. >> scott brown's victory is a shot heard around the world. here he is, the united states senator from massachusetts, scott brown. >> the man who introduced scott brown at his victory party was his dear friend and political ally mitt romney. these days if you went by massachusetts politics, if you only had massachusetts media fed into your home, you'd have no idea that the same guy was running for president. today was the second debate between scott brown and elizabeth warren. two things you'll remember in the first debate. the first the vee mans he attacked elizabeth warren on the basis of race in the first debate saying he could tell by looking at the law professor that she wasn't really native american. that was followed up by two
right now in trying to get reelected, he faces a deficit among women voters of about 12 points. interestingly though, the most politically damaging thing about that awkward introduction to the national political universe might not have been what mr. brown said about his daughters while they tried to make him stop, but what happened right before that. >> scott brown's victory is a shot heard around the world. here he is, the united states senator from massachusetts, scott brown. >>...
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changes here in the country but while france is economically struggling with an enormous huge budget deficit and an unemployment level the highest it's been in more than a decade the question is whether the change that people here voted for has been for the better. or if not. paris france. which has all majors are moving abroad dale's head how business desk or the story. is becoming the latest play will develop an oil field in venezuela the company will have a sixteen billion dollars into the carriage. with the venezuelan oil corporation c v p. also anticipated to toy with b.p. of britain the two firms are currently in negotiations over a stake in b.p. really because of rick's planes. there are more twists and turns in this deal than on the moon is made a park ride to really get the full picture when you take a look at who makes up the n.k.v.d. and how we got so this point so the british partners are here the russian side is represented by a our tension between the two has been brewing for years culminated when b.p. decided to venture out on its own and partner up with another or major that
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the deficit is over 16%. that's the types of things i would start doing and on their brass tax facts that they can be using and we're making it vague and all of the things that we have in common as republicans with president obama but we do not. >> well, i mean -- look, debates are not just about landing punches. real people look at debates and say, what kind of a person are you? what kind of leader are you? what kind of person are you? if he doesn't communicate what kind of he person he is, no one is going to vote for him. >> meghan, she's like a straight shooter. >> i'm at my breaking point with this. and i like governor romney. >> we don't have to agree on everything but at least you're candid. meghan mccain and richard wolffe, thank you for your time tonight. as i've said before, this election is not about obama. it's about your mama. new polls show that the public thinks the big issue at stake on this election day, including medicare, social security, and our safety net. but, first, the right double stan
the deficit is over 16%. that's the types of things i would start doing and on their brass tax facts that they can be using and we're making it vague and all of the things that we have in common as republicans with president obama but we do not. >> well, i mean -- look, debates are not just about landing punches. real people look at debates and say, what kind of a person are you? what kind of leader are you? what kind of person are you? if he doesn't communicate what kind of he person he...